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		<title>By: Chris</title>
		<link>http://whenleastexpected.com/2007/09/06/love-sex-and-relationships/#comment-14187</link>
		<dc:creator>Chris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 21 Jan 2010 15:37:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow, that is an interesting perspective.  You questioned the institution of &quot;Christian&quot; marriage by introducing secular concepts.  

First, the church today does not teach the Bible in regards to the institution of marriage.  Today&#039;s churches teach a combination of philosophy, psychology, myths, Victorianism, etc. with a tiny bit (very fragmented, incomplete,  and incorrect) of Biblical teachings.  Do we actually think that God would honor this?  Taking His word. mixing it with the doctrines of man, and in a state of dilusion believing it is Christian.  The 600 ton gorilla in the room is this.  Why, after 40 years of teaching the same junk, do we find Christian marriages in a lesser state of health when compared to secular marriages.  This is a question no one is willing to really investigate.

When it comes to Eve loving Adam, we must assume she did.  Anything done outside of love is empty (1Cor 13:1).  We also see love being expressed from the wife in the Song of Solomon - I would strongly recommend you read this.  Just because Eve does not mention love does not mean it did not exist.  For the wife not to love her husband is a non Biblical position.

Biblical love is pursuant, NOT responsive.  Responsive love is the way of the word and psychology and we have seen how well that works.  The Bible clearly teaches us to love even when circumstances are not optimal - remember: Love thy enemy....  

When it comes to throwing Eve under the bus, everyone accused someone else except for Satan.  The lesson here was that no one took responsibility for their own actions - a lesson we could learn today.

The Bible or word of God has the answers if we only apply the whole word of God and stop resisting.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow, that is an interesting perspective.  You questioned the institution of &#8220;Christian&#8221; marriage by introducing secular concepts.  </p>
<p>First, the church today does not teach the Bible in regards to the institution of marriage.  Today&#8217;s churches teach a combination of philosophy, psychology, myths, Victorianism, etc. with a tiny bit (very fragmented, incomplete,  and incorrect) of Biblical teachings.  Do we actually think that God would honor this?  Taking His word. mixing it with the doctrines of man, and in a state of dilusion believing it is Christian.  The 600 ton gorilla in the room is this.  Why, after 40 years of teaching the same junk, do we find Christian marriages in a lesser state of health when compared to secular marriages.  This is a question no one is willing to really investigate.</p>
<p>When it comes to Eve loving Adam, we must assume she did.  Anything done outside of love is empty (1Cor 13:1).  We also see love being expressed from the wife in the Song of Solomon &#8211; I would strongly recommend you read this.  Just because Eve does not mention love does not mean it did not exist.  For the wife not to love her husband is a non Biblical position.</p>
<p>Biblical love is pursuant, NOT responsive.  Responsive love is the way of the word and psychology and we have seen how well that works.  The Bible clearly teaches us to love even when circumstances are not optimal &#8211; remember: Love thy enemy&#8230;.  </p>
<p>When it comes to throwing Eve under the bus, everyone accused someone else except for Satan.  The lesson here was that no one took responsibility for their own actions &#8211; a lesson we could learn today.</p>
<p>The Bible or word of God has the answers if we only apply the whole word of God and stop resisting.</p>
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		<title>By: Beacon Bloggers - September 2007</title>
		<link>http://whenleastexpected.com/2007/09/06/love-sex-and-relationships/#comment-1130</link>
		<dc:creator>Beacon Bloggers - September 2007</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 07:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Roderick has a vibrant voice, delivering a message that resonates. His post &#8220;Love, Sex and Relationships&#8221; examines the relationship between Adam and Eve. While his powerful and provocative viewpoints got everyone talking, the post also inspired me to revisit the stories of my Catholic upbringing and to consider the first tale of gender relations in a modern context. Soul-searching stuff. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Roderick has a vibrant voice, delivering a message that resonates. His post &#8220;Love, Sex and Relationships&#8221; examines the relationship between Adam and Eve. While his powerful and provocative viewpoints got everyone talking, the post also inspired me to revisit the stories of my Catholic upbringing and to consider the first tale of gender relations in a modern context. Soul-searching stuff. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: notfearingchange</title>
		<link>http://whenleastexpected.com/2007/09/06/love-sex-and-relationships/#comment-1085</link>
		<dc:creator>notfearingchange</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 30 Sep 2007 17:38:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow.  That is very heavy deconstruction for a sunday morning.  All i can say is this is a very interesting post.  And as you know from my blog - i still debate whether i&#039;m agnostic or athesiest (this post pushes me toward the athesiest) and I still don&#039;t get men and their desires.  And yes, I know what I want from a man.  And am quite happy with explaining them....

Great Job!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow.  That is very heavy deconstruction for a sunday morning.  All i can say is this is a very interesting post.  And as you know from my blog &#8211; i still debate whether i&#8217;m agnostic or athesiest (this post pushes me toward the athesiest) and I still don&#8217;t get men and their desires.  And yes, I know what I want from a man.  And am quite happy with explaining them&#8230;.</p>
<p>Great Job!</p>
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		<title>By: Ejiro</title>
		<link>http://whenleastexpected.com/2007/09/06/love-sex-and-relationships/#comment-1075</link>
		<dc:creator>Ejiro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Sep 2007 10:33:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks man child, for your visit to my blog , nice blog here</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks man child, for your visit to my blog , nice blog here</p>
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		<title>By: Vince Marcus</title>
		<link>http://whenleastexpected.com/2007/09/06/love-sex-and-relationships/#comment-1070</link>
		<dc:creator>Vince Marcus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 25 Sep 2007 03:41:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Very thought provoking! I wonder what dialogue brother Michael Baisden could raise on talk radio if he had your well studied material!?........and invited you to respond.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Very thought provoking! I wonder what dialogue brother Michael Baisden could raise on talk radio if he had your well studied material!?&#8230;&#8230;..and invited you to respond.</p>
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		<title>By: harleyblues</title>
		<link>http://whenleastexpected.com/2007/09/06/love-sex-and-relationships/#comment-1060</link>
		<dc:creator>harleyblues</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 21:16:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello Manchild 
thanx for respeonding! I left you a message I love your blog!
christina</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello Manchild<br />
thanx for respeonding! I left you a message I love your blog!<br />
christina</p>
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		<title>By: Link Love: What Bloggers are Talking About : All Tayo - reflections on an internal revolution</title>
		<link>http://whenleastexpected.com/2007/09/06/love-sex-and-relationships/#comment-1055</link>
		<dc:creator>Link Love: What Bloggers are Talking About : All Tayo - reflections on an internal revolution</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 23 Sep 2007 03:54:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Did Eve really love Adam? If so how was she tempted? Manchild waxes philosophically about this and how it affects today&#8217;s marriages. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] Did Eve really love Adam? If so how was she tempted? Manchild waxes philosophically about this and how it affects today&#8217;s marriages. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Tayo</title>
		<link>http://whenleastexpected.com/2007/09/06/love-sex-and-relationships/#comment-1054</link>
		<dc:creator>Tayo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Sep 2007 00:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wow. Manchild, whenever I read your blog, I am never disappointed. What an interesting perspective to have. Thought-provoking and I&#039;m so glad you put it out there. 

I admit that I am not the &quot;Christian&quot; that I am &quot;supposed&quot; to be (meaning that I do not strictly adhere to all the mores and tenets in the Bible). But I do enjoy hearing people&#039;s rhetoric about issues like this.

I love that you are taking the lessons/stories from the Bible and attempting to adapt them to modern times, realizing that times have changed since the days of origin and since the days that the Bible was written.

As for the topic, I do believe Eve loved Adam and vice versa. They had no other choice.  I agree with Anna (comment #31), about if there had been more choices. If God had given Adam three &quot;perfect&quot; women or if Eve could have been paired with any of three &quot;perfect&quot; men, who is to say what would have happened...

I loved reading this post and enjoyed the discussion. I make my comments not to disparage any viewpoint. This is definitely a multi-part post and I look forward to reading the next one.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Wow. Manchild, whenever I read your blog, I am never disappointed. What an interesting perspective to have. Thought-provoking and I&#8217;m so glad you put it out there. </p>
<p>I admit that I am not the &#8220;Christian&#8221; that I am &#8220;supposed&#8221; to be (meaning that I do not strictly adhere to all the mores and tenets in the Bible). But I do enjoy hearing people&#8217;s rhetoric about issues like this.</p>
<p>I love that you are taking the lessons/stories from the Bible and attempting to adapt them to modern times, realizing that times have changed since the days of origin and since the days that the Bible was written.</p>
<p>As for the topic, I do believe Eve loved Adam and vice versa. They had no other choice.  I agree with Anna (comment #31), about if there had been more choices. If God had given Adam three &#8220;perfect&#8221; women or if Eve could have been paired with any of three &#8220;perfect&#8221; men, who is to say what would have happened&#8230;</p>
<p>I loved reading this post and enjoyed the discussion. I make my comments not to disparage any viewpoint. This is definitely a multi-part post and I look forward to reading the next one.</p>
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		<title>By: Geo</title>
		<link>http://whenleastexpected.com/2007/09/06/love-sex-and-relationships/#comment-1053</link>
		<dc:creator>Geo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Sep 2007 06:59:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some arguments which I would like to express:

1) I disagree that Adam or Eve was the ideal man or woman for each other. They didn&#039;t have anything to compare with. The concept of &quot;ideal partner&quot; would never occur that time. I believe these two loved each other.

2) The snake or Satan didn&#039;t seduce Eve away from Adam. And if Eve was weak, that didn&#039;t mean that she didn&#039;t love Adam. Satan attacks us by making us doubt God&#039;s words. God said they can eat any fruit in Eden except for a fruit of that one tree... Adam and Eve obeyed God and enjoyed all the fruit in the garden except that fruit, but this snake made Eve doubt God&#039;s words. &quot;Do you really think you will die if you eat the fruit?&quot;, the snake hissed. The snake was treacherous, vile, and deceiving. Let us not be swayed by the snake in our thought but instead focus and have faith in God&#039;s words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some arguments which I would like to express:</p>
<p>1) I disagree that Adam or Eve was the ideal man or woman for each other. They didn&#8217;t have anything to compare with. The concept of &#8220;ideal partner&#8221; would never occur that time. I believe these two loved each other.</p>
<p>2) The snake or Satan didn&#8217;t seduce Eve away from Adam. And if Eve was weak, that didn&#8217;t mean that she didn&#8217;t love Adam. Satan attacks us by making us doubt God&#8217;s words. God said they can eat any fruit in Eden except for a fruit of that one tree&#8230; Adam and Eve obeyed God and enjoyed all the fruit in the garden except that fruit, but this snake made Eve doubt God&#8217;s words. &#8220;Do you really think you will die if you eat the fruit?&#8221;, the snake hissed. The snake was treacherous, vile, and deceiving. Let us not be swayed by the snake in our thought but instead focus and have faith in God&#8217;s words.</p>
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		<title>By: solomonsydelle</title>
		<link>http://whenleastexpected.com/2007/09/06/love-sex-and-relationships/#comment-1051</link>
		<dc:creator>solomonsydelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Sep 2007 21:27:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is too deep but I am glad that I get to think about it. .....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is too deep but I am glad that I get to think about it. &#8230;..</p>
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